Henry

## DJI_20260615181656_0003_D Today we are at the office of VoiceCursor. What's your name? Henry. What are you building? I'm building VoiceCursor. What's that? It's an AI voice dictation app. Basically it prevents you from typing. Typing is a bad habit. Oh, typing is a bad habit? Yeah. I've been typing for 30 years. Why is it bad? Yeah, it's really slow. It's really distracting. It's just bad. So you are... Because a machine couldn't understand human language before, so you had to type. Yeah, but now, you know, it can hear you. So your competitor is Logitech, Razer. Well, I mean, not really, but kind of. Okay, how long have you been building this? Like three, four months. Two, four months. Yeah. And do you have any clients? Clients? We're facing consumer right now, but later we'll be facing Enterprise when we finish our SOC 2s and everything else. Cool. Yeah. So why do you want to do this? Overall, we just believe that voice will be the next popular way for human to interact with machine. So, and this won't be limited to, like, just voice-to-text. There will be a lot more cool ways for human to interact with machines using voice. So, like, different machines. Instead of just phone and MacBook, you can be very creative. You could get this thing. It's a little thing. It can be your camera. It could be your car. It could be anything. And the way we interact will not just be, like, voice-to-text. It could be, like, voice-to-actions. Lots of cool little stuff. Oh, so it's not only an app. It's an operating system for everything that's going to come. I mean, right now it's an app, but it will be the, basically it will be the voice layer. Voice layer? Yeah. Of how human interact through AI. Yeah. With everything. With machine. Yeah. Basically. Okay, cool. How you talk to machines, basically. So you are the no UI. Hmm? UI or no UI? No UI, right? Sure. Yeah. No UI, I guess. Oh, okay. Another UI. No UI guy. We have a no UI big discussion months ago. And... Yeah. I guess it depends on, like, what kind of software we're talking about, right? If it is result-driven, then UI will be less important. But then if it is process-driven, like, it's a game. There's no way you don't have the UI for a game, right? If the process is the product, right? Or, for example, TikTok, right? Right. What's your background? Are you a designer? My background? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I, uh... I'm a serial failure entrepreneur. Okay. Serial failure. Yeah. Yeah. I was studying computer science at Berkeley and then dropped out and worked on a startup. Didn't really go well. And then this is my second one. What did that startup do? Oh, it's a sort of interactive video for learning. Imagine you're, like, hopping on a Zoom call with an AI agent. And then that AI agent is, like, teaching you you can interrupt any time you want and then chat with it. It's, like, basically a one-on-one tutor. You think that's not a... I think it's good. I actually think it's good. Uh-huh. It's just, like, probably not the right team and the right... And we made a lot of mistakes. It's our problem. It's not the idea's problem. I think someone else will probably build it. Okay, so you still believe AI will start teaching humans? Yeah, yeah. Definitely. But the bigger thing is using voice to control everything. Yeah, yeah. So what's the change? What's the change? Like, I think Javis, Iraq, a lot of movies have been telling us about us, telling us everything. So what's the big change? Why, right now, it's the right time to beat it? Yeah. I think it's largely because of AI, so that machines can understand human voice now, right? Before the AI wave, like, machines just can't understand. Like, right? The voice to text is kind of bad, and then text to action is kind of bad, right? Everything is kind of bad. But then right now, we're at the sweet spot, like, we're, you know, machines are starting to understand human voice. They can understand it now very well. So, yeah. So how many years do you think we will enter this new UI, voice-only world? I think we're already at the shift, right? Right now, a lot of things can be done by talking. I mean, it has already been started, so I don't know, like, two, three years, maybe? Two, three years. It's already working, right? Like, you can just talk, right? For a lot of tasks. The UI codex, it's just the whisper mode, it didn't upgrade, update a lot, so there's a lot of wrong words. Yeah. But a word cursor will solve that problem, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, just some engineering stuff. So what, engineering stuff? Yeah, some engineering stuff, and we'll be able to solve it. How do you try it? It's an app, and it's an app? It's an app. You can download it to your phone and your laptop. So with the app, I do? You have a, we'll have a keyboard, right? It's a keyboard, basically. Okay. Yeah. So do you have APIs? Do you have APIs? We will have it, probably. I think that's important. So I don't need to use a codex whisper. Yeah. Like, they will always make the cloud wrong. They will cloud, right? Now we use cloud code, and they will always recognize it as cloud, the old cloud. Okay. I don't know. So, so. Yeah. Cool. What else? Do you want to ask anything? I think it doesn't. Huh? That's it. All right. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Okay. All right. ## DJI_20260615182326_0004_D You guys, we have a voice coding hackathon this Friday, uh, June, is it 19th? I think June 19th, yeah, at, uh, SF. Uh, 4.50 Bryan Street, San Francisco, starting 7pm. You're gonna have a great night here. Yeah. Okay. Right here. Just there. Okay. You guys are gonna be coding there. Can we do our events also on our platform? Sure. ## DJI_20260615182626_0005_D How long have you been a serial entrepreneur? Oh, I dropped out two years ago. Third year? Second year? Second year? Second year? Second year? Third year in university. Uh, yeah, third year. Third year, okay. So two years fresh entrepreneur. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Right.