## DJI_20260615154909_0001_D So I found it very interesting that you share about your experience about how you transform from your major, that is ITP, ITP to the current group you have, so what's your opinion about how to, like, for this kind of major students, how do you locate your first job? You're too far from the mic. You're too far from the mic. So I just want to ask, like, how for your major of students, the students of your major, so how do you, what's your suggestion towards these kind of students, so to locate your first AI related job? Yeah, I think, I think for my major ITP stands for Interactive Telecommunication Program in New York, in NYU. I think they have been exposed to a lot of AI tools, and I know the current class, they have a lot of AI related class, so I think it's very important to try as many AI tools as possible in their work, and also try to, like, train an AI model if that's possible. And also, specifically looking for the experience gap, when you interact with, like, any AI tools, what is something that human or users are currently not capable, like, not available to do, will be crucial for them. And maybe think, like, innovatively on, like, how they fix that gap. Yeah. Okay. I forgot about your name. So what's your name? My name is Chris. Chris. Nice to meet you, Chris. Yeah. And you are doing? I am a design technologist. What is that? Design technologist is a mixed role that, basically, you do design and prototyping with code at the same time, with the help of AI. UI. So UI or no UI? No UI, in my opinion. Yeah. Cool. That's it. That's it. ## DJI_20260615155138_0002_D Okay, so I think my work currently, I'm most interested in like the trust between AI and user, and I realize there is always, there's a trust gap in current AI tools. We are, my work is basically around how we calculate or calibrate those trust, how we evaluate those trust between AI and user, and how we apply and potentially increase the trust in the future so that in more like important or like security needed, industry, trust is important. So I think that's something I'm currently very interested in exploring. I like the muscle. Oh, thank you. How many times do you do workout? Four times a week. Yeah, I'm trying to fix my schedule. But yeah, it's been nice.