WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.800 Hello. Hi. Today we met Wenxin Chang. 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:12.800 So Wenxin, tell a little bit about yourself. 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:19.280 My name is Wenxin Chang and I just graduated from the University of Chicago and I just 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:26.920 moved here in San Francisco and I want to start up a company which is in AI plus education 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:37.120 areas and our product is help Gen Z like ADHD or procrastination students to study. 00:00:37.120 --> 00:00:44.520 We turn boring materials, study materials into very fun, drama study, learning videos, 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:47.040 short videos. 00:00:47.040 --> 00:00:49.440 So what is your study in UChicago? 00:00:49.440 --> 00:00:56.200 Yeah, study major is AI, Artificial Intelligence Engineering program. 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:58.440 So there is already an AI program? 00:00:58.440 --> 00:01:01.240 Yeah, it's highly AI. 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:02.240 Okay. 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:07.200 I think when I was studying in school, there was not a major AI. 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:08.200 Okay. 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:09.880 It's very up to date. 00:01:09.880 --> 00:01:13.840 So what did you teach in the AI program? 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:20.360 Many courses, mainly like a large language model and some, you know, some really pretty 00:01:20.360 --> 00:01:21.360 courses. 00:01:21.360 --> 00:01:23.720 Oh, so you graduated this year? 00:01:23.960 --> 00:01:26.760 Yeah, I just graduated this year and this program. 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:29.480 So you are in the school of 2022? 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:31.280 Oh, it's my master's program. 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:32.280 Oh, master. 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:33.280 Yeah. 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:34.280 Yeah. 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:35.280 Sorry. 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:36.280 Yeah. 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:40.600 I'm a graduate in China and it's South China University of Technology at Guangzhou. 00:01:40.600 --> 00:01:41.600 Yeah. 00:01:41.600 --> 00:01:42.600 Okay. 00:01:42.600 --> 00:01:47.680 So two years ago, there was an AI focused program, sounds right? 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:48.680 Yeah. 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:52.120 I was thinking, in 2022, how come there is an AI course? 00:01:52.160 --> 00:01:54.160 Because GPT was not even popular. 00:01:54.160 --> 00:01:55.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:01:55.160 --> 00:01:56.160 GPT. 00:01:56.160 --> 00:01:58.160 But GPT is developing very fast. 00:01:58.160 --> 00:01:59.160 Yeah. 00:01:59.160 --> 00:02:00.160 Okay. 00:02:00.160 --> 00:02:01.920 So AI. 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:09.000 And what drives your interest to the domain you are trying to develop a startup for? 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:13.280 Like what attracts you to the AI application? 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:22.160 I think I just made a lot of products, like from March this year, and I started as a health 00:02:22.160 --> 00:02:24.520 care project. 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:26.280 It's about pets. 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:29.680 It's about pet and family. 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:39.360 But I made a lot of products, like in health care, and in education, and also in education 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:43.800 decision agents, yeah, many products. 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:49.760 And through the process, I found many products can be copied very easily by coding. 00:02:49.760 --> 00:02:58.600 So yeah, so finally, I found this really interesting, because I want to study well-scrolling, you 00:02:58.600 --> 00:03:00.480 know, not playing well-scrolling. 00:03:00.480 --> 00:03:08.400 So I want to design such a chance to tell students they can also study well-scrolling. 00:03:08.440 --> 00:03:09.440 Well-scrolling. 00:03:09.440 --> 00:03:10.440 Study well-scrolling. 00:03:10.440 --> 00:03:11.440 Yeah. 00:03:11.440 --> 00:03:12.440 What's that? 00:03:12.440 --> 00:03:21.440 Oh, yeah, like you can learn some knowledge through scrolling your screen, through short 00:03:21.440 --> 00:03:23.800 videos or drama videos. 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.240 That means you can study well-playing, so that's really fun. 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:28.240 Oh, study well-playing. 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:29.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:30.240 Okay, gamified study. 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:31.240 Similar, right? 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:32.240 Make it a game. 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:37.120 Oh, yeah, yeah, like game. 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:47.280 And also, I want to do some, like, game in education, and I web-coded a game, like Chemistry 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:48.280 World. 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:55.960 It's like an endless map, and different chemistry parts are in it, and you can click anyone 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:00.520 and then enter the world, and to figure out the details, yeah. 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:07.040 Okay, so at the end of the master, maybe in the course, you need to develop different 00:04:07.040 --> 00:04:13.000 projects, and you try different things, and finally you find out maybe something too simple 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:14.440 can be web-coded. 00:04:14.440 --> 00:04:19.040 Maybe something is not your interest, and you feel like you need to do something related 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:20.040 to study. 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:21.040 Yes, yes. 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:24.680 Apart from the other things, you don't have moat. 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:31.760 That's what the investors might, from you, from your own personal interest, why you want 00:04:31.760 --> 00:04:38.520 to do this related to study. 00:04:38.520 --> 00:04:41.520 Why I want to do this product? 00:04:41.520 --> 00:04:47.480 I think it's just really fun, because I, usually in daily life, I have watched drama videos 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:53.760 or short videos, and it will waste a lot of my time, but I think, why can't I just combine 00:04:53.840 --> 00:05:01.840 them, and when I made this AI videos, when I combined the knowledge with the drama, the 00:05:01.840 --> 00:05:06.640 books, all the storytelling, I found this really interesting, yeah. 00:05:06.640 --> 00:05:16.760 Okay, so you found out that humans would be more interested with dramas, and it makes 00:05:16.760 --> 00:05:19.440 people addicted by nature. 00:05:19.440 --> 00:05:20.440 Yeah. 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:26.080 And you just think about, okay, so still, in AI, people need to learn, why not do it 00:05:26.080 --> 00:05:27.080 this way? 00:05:27.080 --> 00:05:28.080 Yeah, yeah. 00:05:28.080 --> 00:05:38.640 And before, it was very hard for the education system to produce this kind of content for 00:05:38.640 --> 00:05:43.320 people to learn, because I think that's the kind of traditional culture, they think that 00:05:43.320 --> 00:05:44.320 the study is serious. 00:05:44.320 --> 00:05:45.320 Yeah, yeah. 00:05:45.320 --> 00:05:51.800 So the short videos or the drama videos, this is addictiveness of the humanity, right? 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:57.760 So we want to transfer the additives from playing, or the drama, or the entertainment 00:05:57.760 --> 00:05:59.120 into the study. 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:02.440 So why can't we be addictive to study? 00:06:02.440 --> 00:06:03.440 Yeah. 00:06:03.440 --> 00:06:06.360 Yeah, I think that's kind of a Gen Z culture, right? 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:07.360 Yeah, Gen Z. 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:09.040 Why study should be serious? 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:10.040 Yeah. 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:11.040 Why cannot be fun? 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:12.040 How fun? 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:13.040 As fun as a drama. 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:14.040 Yeah, yeah. 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:15.040 As fun as short videos. 00:06:15.760 --> 00:06:16.760 Yeah, yeah. 00:06:16.760 --> 00:06:17.760 Okay. 00:06:17.760 --> 00:06:18.760 I like the idea. 00:06:18.760 --> 00:06:19.760 Yeah, yeah. 00:06:19.760 --> 00:06:20.760 That's what I'm trying to say. 00:06:20.760 --> 00:06:21.760 Yeah. 00:06:21.760 --> 00:06:27.880 Like, the first place I want to do some, like, video tutor these days, I want to do AI, like 00:06:27.880 --> 00:06:30.440 AI teacher can teach you all things. 00:06:30.440 --> 00:06:35.440 And you can naturally ask questions about the AI tutor about everything. 00:06:35.440 --> 00:06:39.960 You won't be shy, you won't be fearful to the real teacher. 00:06:39.960 --> 00:06:41.600 So you just ask everything. 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.400 That will be a good opportunity for students. 00:06:44.760 --> 00:06:45.760 Yeah. 00:06:45.760 --> 00:06:52.040 But I think I want to train a model, like in the long run, I want to train a model to 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:55.760 design AI tutor to help students. 00:06:55.760 --> 00:06:57.760 Now I want to do entertainment part. 00:06:57.760 --> 00:06:58.760 Okay. 00:06:58.760 --> 00:07:06.520 So first, about the AI education, the first part is people, human is not interested with 00:07:06.520 --> 00:07:07.520 studying, a lot of them. 00:07:07.520 --> 00:07:09.520 So you want to make it attractive. 00:07:09.520 --> 00:07:10.520 Yeah, yeah. 00:07:10.520 --> 00:07:11.520 That's the point. 00:07:11.520 --> 00:07:17.920 Because the group of students who don't want to study is more than the students who want 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:18.920 to study. 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:19.920 Yeah. 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:20.920 Yeah. 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:21.920 That's the point. 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:22.920 Okay. 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:23.920 Make it fun. 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:24.920 And what's... 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:25.920 So how's the project? 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:26.920 How's it going? 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:27.920 How long have you been working on that? 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.920 I've been working on this almost three months. 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:31.920 Three months? 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:32.920 Yeah. 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:37.920 I made a lot of videos and posted them on TikTok and Instagram and also YouTube. 00:07:38.320 --> 00:07:43.320 And we have nearly like 600 fans on TikTok now. 00:07:43.320 --> 00:07:48.320 Also we have a website and we are transforming to an app, to design an app now. 00:07:48.320 --> 00:07:49.320 Yeah. 00:07:49.320 --> 00:07:50.320 So what's the website? 00:07:50.320 --> 00:07:51.320 Can you tell us? 00:07:51.320 --> 00:07:52.320 Yeah. 00:07:52.320 --> 00:07:53.320 The website... 00:07:53.320 --> 00:07:54.320 Can I show you? 00:07:54.320 --> 00:07:55.320 You can show me or you can tell us. 00:07:55.320 --> 00:07:56.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:07:56.320 --> 00:07:57.320 And you have 60,000 organic followers. 00:07:57.320 --> 00:07:58.320 600. 00:07:58.320 --> 00:07:59.320 Yeah, yeah. 00:07:59.320 --> 00:08:00.320 600. 00:08:00.320 --> 00:08:01.320 Turn your course material into... 00:08:01.320 --> 00:08:02.320 Yeah. 00:08:02.320 --> 00:08:03.320 It's our website now. 00:08:03.320 --> 00:08:04.320 And it shows that it can turn every boring study materials into bingeable study drama 00:08:04.320 --> 00:08:05.320 short videos. 00:08:05.320 --> 00:08:06.320 Yeah. 00:08:06.320 --> 00:08:07.320 You can create your first drama videos on your own. 00:08:07.320 --> 00:08:08.320 I can use it. 00:08:08.320 --> 00:08:09.320 Yeah. 00:08:09.320 --> 00:08:10.320 Yeah. 00:08:10.320 --> 00:08:11.320 Yeah. 00:08:11.320 --> 00:08:12.320 Yeah. 00:08:12.320 --> 00:08:13.320 Yeah. 00:08:13.320 --> 00:08:14.320 Yeah. 00:08:14.320 --> 00:08:15.320 Yeah. 00:08:15.320 --> 00:08:16.320 Yeah. 00:08:16.320 --> 00:08:17.320 Yeah. 00:08:17.320 --> 00:08:18.320 Yeah. 00:08:18.320 --> 00:08:19.320 Yeah. 00:08:19.320 --> 00:08:20.320 Yeah. 00:08:20.320 --> 00:08:21.320 Yeah. 00:08:21.320 --> 00:08:22.320 Yeah. 00:08:22.320 --> 00:08:23.320 Yeah. 00:08:23.320 --> 00:08:24.320 Yeah. 00:08:24.320 --> 00:08:25.320 Yeah. 00:08:25.320 --> 00:08:26.320 Yeah. 00:08:26.320 --> 00:08:27.320 Yeah. 00:08:28.320 --> 00:08:32.960 And you can choose different storytelling mode and choose different characters. 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:38.720 And also, you can upload yourself file so you can be the main character in your own videos. 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:46.360 And then upload any study materials or just one part, then you can generate the videos. 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:47.360 Yeah. 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:48.360 Yeah. 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:49.600 So the... 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:56.200 And we also want to do like a Duolingo app as our template. 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:02.720 You can watch one video or three videos one day and you keep the daily streak and join 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:04.720 the leaderboard just like Duolingo. 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:05.720 Yeah. 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:06.720 Okay. 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:07.720 So what drama... 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:08.720 Can I see some more? 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:09.720 Yeah. 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:10.720 Yeah. 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:11.720 Yeah. 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:12.720 Sure. 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:13.720 Sure. 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:14.720 Sure. 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:15.720 Oh. 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:16.720 Let me show you my TikTok account. 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:23.720 And I'll show you one of the dramas. 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:34.720 Or I can do it this way. 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:40.720 Show you the Jacob. 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:44.720 Let's see. 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:54.720 So is this a study thing or is it trying to sell that you can learn by... 00:09:54.720 --> 00:10:01.720 Oh, it's a study thing that you can study the... 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:02.720 You can see at the end. 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:03.720 It will show the answer. 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:04.720 Yeah. 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:05.720 Yeah. 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:06.720 I got it. 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:07.720 Okay. 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.720 Okay, I know. 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:18.720 I know it's point one. 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:20.720 Yeah. 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:22.720 Yeah. 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:27.720 You got it. 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:29.720 Survivors. 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:31.720 Bias. 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:34.720 Survivors. 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:35.720 Bias. 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:41.720 Yes, yes. 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:43.720 Yeah, that's right. 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:44.720 Okay. 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:45.720 I think it's good. 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:46.720 It's good. 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:47.720 It's pretty good. 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:48.720 Okay, yeah. 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:55.720 Yeah, but for now, we are still in the process of, you know, refining our content, refining 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.720 the storytelling lines with knowledge. 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:00.720 Yeah. 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:09.720 Okay, so you think in the future, LA children, adults, their learning materials will be highly 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.720 personalized and gamified kind of drama. 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:19.720 Yeah, because like in your daily study, when you want to study specific knowledge, maybe 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:25.720 you can find specific videos to help you study, but now you can just create your own 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:26.720 videos to study. 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:29.720 Yeah, just upload your knowledge you want to study. 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:31.720 I think that's big. 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:33.720 We have experience. 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:39.720 First, people have no education, and there is a teacher's voluntary education, but the 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:45.720 teachers, they are limited, the workforce, and all the textbook, everything is the same. 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:54.720 And now with AI, with the production getting so cheap, and with AI, I understand that your 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:59.720 audience can make it super personalized and cheap. 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:01.720 So, okay, we can see that feature. 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:08.720 So, you see the future, maybe in five years, LA children will be addicted to study. 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:10.720 Yeah, I hope so, yeah. 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:12.720 That's our vision of our product. 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:14.720 Okay, cool. 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:15.720 So, what's next? 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:17.720 What's the bottleneck? 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:24.720 The bottleneck, I think, up to now is like the cost of making AI videos. 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:30.720 Now it costs like $0.05 per second. 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:43.720 So, like one video with 40 seconds, it will be like $2. 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:45.720 $2 per video. 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.720 $2 per 40 seconds videos. 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:50.720 So, that's for one concept. 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:52.720 Yeah, for one concept. 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:54.720 $2. 00:12:57.720 --> 00:12:58.720 Still fine, right? 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:01.720 I think for that one, we have the same. 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.720 It's not just made for one person. 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:14.720 If anyone who's interested in the survivorship bias, you can still serve that $2 outcome 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.720 to multiple audiences. 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:24.720 Yeah, I think for my product, I want to design it as if you want to create like new videos 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:29.720 or personalized videos, I think you must pay for the personalized video. 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:33.720 And for the daily videos, you can watch it for free. 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:39.720 And we will create or found the videos you want to study in advance. 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:42.720 So, that will not be costly. 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:46.720 And then for the creation, you need to pay. 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:50.720 Okay, cost of generation. 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.720 And secondly, how about the Google market? 00:13:54.720 --> 00:14:00.720 Yeah, I already have like over 20 users right now using our website. 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:07.720 And they are giving me my feedback and I iterate my product. 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:12.720 And for the go to market, that's a really big, big problem. 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.720 Yeah, I'm still in the process. 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:19.720 I want to like our business model, maybe B2B2C. 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:24.720 We want to talk with some tutorial centers, our schools, our teachers, 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:31.720 because our videos can help teachers get their student attention back. 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:37.720 Because in class, students may not pay attention to the teachers, 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.720 they will get bored easily, and they will be distracted easily. 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.720 So, I think I can help teachers to make a syllabus for their textbook, 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:53.720 like before the class beginning, the teacher will show the videos 00:14:53.720 --> 00:15:00.720 to tell the students what's this class about and what's the main point. 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:04.720 And this is also fun, so it will get students' attention back. 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:08.720 Right, as for the video you showed me, it's only 40 seconds. 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:09.720 Yeah. 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:17.720 And it's already very clearly told me what survivorship bias is. 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:19.720 It's pretty fast and impressive. 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:21.720 And you were talking about ADHD. 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:22.720 Yeah. 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:24.720 Are you still thinking about that? 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:31.720 Yeah, I think the fourth main group of our users would be ADHD and procrastination. 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:36.720 Because ADHD and procrastination students, like they can't pay attention 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:40.720 or they can't just right now start to study. 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:45.720 The gap from playing to study will be very big for them. 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:53.720 So, I want to help them to turn to study mode very quickly. 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:58.720 That is your pilot users. 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.720 And for those 20 users, how did you find out? 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:05.720 I think mainly from my classmates and my friends. 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:13.720 And I made a post at UChicago, and some users just signed up. 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:19.720 And many users, they are from TikTok, because our TikTok content is viral. 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:25.720 So, one of the students just commented below the videos, 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:30.720 and she asked me if I can do AP Bio, too, for her. 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:37.720 So, I just made new videos for her, and she signed up for our website. 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:39.720 AP... 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:42.720 AP Bio. It's high school students' content. 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:44.720 Oh, okay. For her. 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:50.720 Yeah. Also, I had another stranger on TikTok, 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:55.720 and she talked with me and also signed up for our website. 00:16:55.720 --> 00:17:00.720 And she said it's very convenient for students to just upload and then create. 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:01.720 Okay. 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:03.720 Yeah, we talk a lot. 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:09.720 So, at least with those videos you generated, you post them on TikTok, 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:11.720 and some of them go viral. 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:15.720 And we can see the true demand. 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.720 Some people reach out to you, want to have their personal... 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.720 Okay, the loop is there, and it's a cost. 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.720 It's how to go to the bigger market. 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:29.720 But still, I think you don't need to answer all those questions right now. 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:31.720 It can develop. 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.720 Yeah, I think the likes rate can prove that people really love it, 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:39.720 because it's over 10% likes rate. 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:43.720 And for the students who comment below the videos, 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:47.720 it can prove that our videos truly help them study. 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:49.720 They want to study more about our videos. 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.720 I think that's two big signals for our product. 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:54.720 Okay, that's cool. 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:58.720 AI adaptation. 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:02.720 What else? What else do you want to talk about? 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:08.720 Yeah, also B2B2C is our missing model. 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:12.720 We also want to cooperate with study tutorial center, 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:14.720 that we can cooperate. 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:19.720 Like, they can help us bring more students, 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:21.720 our users to our product, 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:25.720 and we can help them to acquire more students. 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:29.720 And by our videos, we can also do some advertisement for them, 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:31.720 so it's win-win, yeah. 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:37.720 Okay, so you need the resources of those schools, tutor schools. 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:39.720 Okay, got it. 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:44.720 Yeah, to automate the end users would be customers, consumers, yeah. 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.720 So can we talk more about yourself? 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:49.720 Yeah, sure. 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:51.720 What else do you want to tell the audience? 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:53.720 What else do you want to tell the audience? 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:58.720 I think I have a lot of experience, like, for my undergraduate. 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:03.720 Yeah, at that time I studied, my major is molecular science and engineering. 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:05.720 I studied materials. 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:08.720 Material science? 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:10.720 Yeah, material science. 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:12.720 Okay, so it must be hard. 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:14.720 Yeah, it's really hard. 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.720 The course is just fine for me, yeah. 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:24.720 But for the lab, I always, you know, stay in the lab and do many research. 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:28.720 And I, you know, for the, but the result is good. 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:32.720 I have a patent, a utility patent in China, 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:37.720 and also published a paper of Jack's AU. 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:39.720 It's a journal in United States. 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:41.720 It's very famous. 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:43.720 So, yeah, that's good for me, yeah. 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:49.720 At that time, I want to, like, apply for a PhD at that time, yeah. 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.720 Yeah, it's a tough time. 00:19:52.720 --> 00:20:02.720 So as an undergraduate, published a paper on a very famous industrial... 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:06.720 Famous paper, yeah, famous journal in United States. 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.720 It's Jack's, Jack's AU, yeah. 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:10.720 Jack's AU, so it's not easy. 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:13.720 So it proves you are very smart and hardworking. 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.720 Yeah, I think hardworking is the most important one, yeah. 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:18.720 You must be diligent. 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:24.720 Like, I, usually, I every day go to the lab to watch my experiments 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:26.720 because some experiments is really long. 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:31.720 You must wait, like, for one day or two days to watch the results 00:20:31.720 --> 00:20:38.720 and then maybe wait for it to cool down and extract the sample 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.720 and then do some follow-up, follow-up processing 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.720 and then do the characterization. 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:47.720 Okay, so what's the paper's name? 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:49.720 Paper's name is, it's really long. 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:52.720 It's in the MOF, MOF areas. 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:57.720 It's, I designed a Zinc MOF, Metal Organic Frameworks. 00:20:57.720 --> 00:20:58.720 Maybe you heard of it. 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:02.720 It's last year's Nobel Prize. 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:05.720 Yeah, it's very, but it's very normal materials. 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.720 It hasn't been already applied into our daily life. 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:10.720 It's just in lab. 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:12.720 It's just in research level now. 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:16.720 I'm not from the material background, so what's that? 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:18.720 MOF, Metal Organic Frameworks. 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:23.720 It's like organic and inorganic hybrid frameworks. 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.720 What's that? 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:27.720 Oh, that's interesting. 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:33.720 Yeah, for the paper, I made a very common application. 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:39.720 I investigate the MOFs in pesticide, 00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:47.720 like for the daily stuff, if there's pesticide left over. 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:49.720 So we use MOF to test it, 00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:53.720 to test the percentage of the pesticide left over. 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:55.720 So what's the name of the paper? 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:57.720 I think the AI can find it out. 00:21:57.720 --> 00:21:59.720 Oh, it's really long. 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:00.720 Come on, tell us. 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:02.720 What's the name? 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:06.720 What? 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.720 MOF. 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:10.720 MOF, MOF. 00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:18.220 Yeah, it's called Synergistic Aggregation Induced Emissive Linkers 00:22:18.220 --> 00:22:25.220 in Metal Organic Frameworks for Ultrasensitive and Continuative Visual Sensing. 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:28.220 And JAX? 00:22:28.220 --> 00:22:30.220 JAX, AU, yeah. 00:22:30.220 --> 00:22:31.220 AU, 2025. 00:22:31.220 --> 00:22:35.220 Yeah, just last year. 00:22:35.220 --> 00:22:37.220 Yeah, but it's called a really long time, 00:22:37.220 --> 00:22:42.220 like nearly over three years I just published this paper. 00:22:42.220 --> 00:22:44.220 And you are the second... 00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:47.220 No, we are the co-first author. 00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:50.220 Yeah, it's just not shown here, but we are the co-first author. 00:22:50.220 --> 00:22:53.220 You can check it in the paper, yeah. 00:22:53.220 --> 00:22:56.220 Sure, sure, sure. 00:22:56.220 --> 00:23:03.220 So you have experienced a very boring study and procedure. 00:23:03.220 --> 00:23:04.220 Now you want to make it fun. 00:23:04.220 --> 00:23:07.220 Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:08.220 Cool.