WEBVTT 00:00:04.620 --> 00:00:04.660 Hey. 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:05.140 Hello. 00:01:24.540 --> 00:01:24.760 Hey. 00:01:24.800 --> 00:01:25.300 How's it going? 00:01:26.100 --> 00:01:26.600 Very good. 00:01:26.960 --> 00:01:27.700 Can you hear me okay? 00:01:29.420 --> 00:01:29.980 Yeah, I can hear you. 00:01:30.620 --> 00:01:31.500 Yep, perfect. 00:01:32.140 --> 00:01:33.380 So nice to see you. 00:01:33.500 --> 00:01:34.020 Nice to meet you. 00:01:34.740 --> 00:01:35.400 Yeah, nice to meet you. 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:39.280 Let me change into a, uh, different, uh, to my call room over here, 00:01:40.420 --> 00:01:41.220 which right fast. 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:46.900 Ooh. 00:01:46.940 --> 00:01:48.400 Just that way I don't have to... 00:01:48.780 --> 00:01:50.880 I don't wanna disturb my desk buddy. 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:50.980 Yeah. 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:00.460 Ah, doo-doo-doo. 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:00.680 Cool. 00:02:00.820 --> 00:02:01.540 How's your day going? 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:07.280 Hello? 00:02:08.180 --> 00:02:08.580 Can you hear me? 00:02:09.320 --> 00:02:09.580 Yes. 00:02:10.500 --> 00:02:10.560 Yep. 00:02:10.580 --> 00:02:10.880 All right, cool. 00:02:10.900 --> 00:02:12.120 How's, how's your day going, Pavel? 00:02:12.660 --> 00:02:12.900 Pawel? 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:15.520 All good. 00:02:15.780 --> 00:02:16.420 Yeah, sorry. 00:02:16.480 --> 00:02:19.740 It's my, uh, company one, so... 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:22.800 Yeah, but everything is okay. 00:02:22.880 --> 00:02:23.100 Yep. 00:02:23.600 --> 00:02:26.480 So what's up and what I can do for you? 00:02:27.540 --> 00:02:31.637 So I saw you just launched your, your new app, and we're, we're running an 00:02:31.637 --> 00:02:35.624 interview series featuring different, uh, indie hackers, indie builders, 00:02:35.624 --> 00:02:39.610 and, uh, you know, I'm making clips and, uh, posting them on X, and then 00:02:39.610 --> 00:02:41.880 we're also featuring them on our website. 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:42.320 Mm-hmm. 00:02:42.420 --> 00:02:45.420 So if you're open to it, I'd love to talk a little bit about what you built. 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:46.180 Yep. 00:02:46.200 --> 00:02:49.357 And then if you're looking to connect with anybody or looking for more testers or 00:02:49.357 --> 00:02:52.436 anything like that, I can try to connect you through our platform to, to people 00:02:52.436 --> 00:02:54.540 like that to test your, to test your new product or... 00:02:54.880 --> 00:02:55.040 Yeah. 00:02:55.780 --> 00:02:59.103 Uh, question, because it is a recording in progress, so 00:02:59.103 --> 00:03:01.520 it is, uh, used later on as a video, uh, 00:03:02.540 --> 00:03:06.360 somewhere, or just voice or just the text or what is the- 00:03:07.100 --> 00:03:08.020 Only if you'd like to. 00:03:08.060 --> 00:03:09.200 Yeah, everything's just recorded. 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:09.900 Uh, um, question. 00:03:10.060 --> 00:03:11.900 I, I, I ask because I don't know. 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:13.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:03:13.780 --> 00:03:17.158 So I mean, if you'd like me to post a clip talking about, like 00:03:17.158 --> 00:03:20.537 an intro clip of what you're building, uh, so that way you can 00:03:20.537 --> 00:03:22.880 get more exposure on X, uh, we can do that. 00:03:23.140 --> 00:03:26.720 But if you don't want me to post something from this, uh, video, we don't have to. 00:03:26.880 --> 00:03:31.030 But yeah, it's, it's recorded, so if we have a good conversation, uh, if you wanna 00:03:31.030 --> 00:03:34.320 demo your product or anything like that, I can post that on my X. 00:03:34.440 --> 00:03:36.280 I have a good amount of followers, and then that can- 00:03:36.320 --> 00:03:36.500 Mm-hmm 00:03:36.500 --> 00:03:36.501 ... 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:37.860 you know, help get some more attention- 00:03:37.860 --> 00:03:37.861 Okay 00:03:37.880 --> 00:03:37.881 ... 00:03:37.920 --> 00:03:38.600 to what you're working on. 00:03:39.340 --> 00:03:39.560 Mm-hmm. 00:03:42.600 --> 00:03:43.400 So what is the- 00:03:43.480 --> 00:03:43.900 Sound good? 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:43.961 ... 00:03:43.980 --> 00:03:43.981 scenario? 00:03:44.020 --> 00:03:47.020 So yeah, you ask questions or how does it look like? 00:03:47.880 --> 00:03:48.020 Yeah. 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:50.669 So what have, what have, what have, what have you built so far, and then 00:03:50.669 --> 00:03:52.580 what, what was kinda your inspiration for building it? 00:03:52.860 --> 00:03:54.020 That'd, that'd be my first question. 00:03:54.220 --> 00:03:55.400 Yeah, just a couple of them. 00:03:56.340 --> 00:03:56.540 Yeah. 00:03:56.720 --> 00:04:03.042 So, um, act- uh, the, the case is that I'm pretty old-ish, let's say like this, uh, 00:04:03.042 --> 00:04:09.440 in comparison to other, other people who are building right now, uh, with use of AI. 00:04:09.860 --> 00:04:11.180 Uh, but actually I also... 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:16.800 It's also a good, um, example that, uh, age is not an issue. 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:17.561 Mm-hmm. 00:04:17.579 --> 00:04:18.279 Let's put it like this. 00:04:18.860 --> 00:04:24.505 Uh, so I have right now three mobile apps, iOS apps, uh, up there, and 00:04:24.505 --> 00:04:28.940 the next one, the fo- the third coming soon, hopefully. 00:04:29.980 --> 00:04:30.120 Mm-hmm. 00:04:30.300 --> 00:04:34.460 Uh, so, uh, it is, uh, my, 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:40.997 how to say, approach to create some useful stuff, 00:04:40.997 --> 00:04:44.740 something which, uh, is nice and, um, 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.900 help me and other peoples, people. 00:04:49.980 --> 00:04:51.960 Um, and yeah. 00:04:52.020 --> 00:04:52.940 So that's it's... 00:04:53.280 --> 00:04:55.400 So iOS mobile apps. 00:04:56.740 --> 00:04:57.780 iOS mobile apps. 00:04:57.840 --> 00:04:58.020 Okay. 00:04:58.060 --> 00:04:59.320 And how long have you been a developer? 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:01.880 Uh, I am not a developer. 00:05:02.100 --> 00:05:05.680 Actually, my, uh, I used to, mm, 00:05:06.760 --> 00:05:07.060 I, uh... 00:05:07.100 --> 00:05:08.740 Okay, I'm not a developer. 00:05:09.200 --> 00:05:13.220 I used to be a golf course manager in the past, years ago. 00:05:13.580 --> 00:05:13.780 Yeah. 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:19.217 Uh, then I changed my, uh, career into IT, but it was more of like a 00:05:19.217 --> 00:05:23.120 process-wise, uh, so agile processes and stuff like that. 00:05:23.640 --> 00:05:25.600 So now- uh, I was not programming. 00:05:26.620 --> 00:05:31.804 Uh, I learned myself programming a little bit on Android years ago, but forgot 00:05:31.804 --> 00:05:37.320 everything since then because for years I was not, uh, making anything around that. 00:05:37.780 --> 00:05:39.800 And right now, actually, I use op-- 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:42.200 guess, guess what? 00:05:42.500 --> 00:05:44.240 AI to actually create- 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:44.260 Good 00:05:44.280 --> 00:05:44.281 ... 00:05:44.320 --> 00:05:44.800 the apps. 00:05:45.740 --> 00:05:52.700 Uh, so, uh, it is, uh, actually according to the way I always 00:05:54.060 --> 00:05:55.600 was thinking about products. 00:05:56.020 --> 00:06:00.940 Uh, I have a lots of ideas, so right now AI make it possible for me to build. 00:06:02.236 --> 00:06:02.856 That's awesome. 00:06:03.276 --> 00:06:04.096 And then this most... 00:06:04.216 --> 00:06:07.995 So you've been coding, you've been coding for a little while, and then this most 00:06:07.995 --> 00:06:11.821 recent project, uh, what gave you the inspiration, and what would you like to see 00:06:11.821 --> 00:06:14.136 this, this most recent, uh, project blossom into? 00:06:15.236 --> 00:06:17.016 Uh, the one which is not, uh, 00:06:18.536 --> 00:06:20.236 developed, it's ... 00:06:20.736 --> 00:06:22.676 This one is actually, um, 00:06:24.156 --> 00:06:28.936 uh, call it a mix of, uh, exercise and keeping focus. 00:06:29.896 --> 00:06:34.986 Uh, so because I work all the time in front of a computer, and 00:06:34.986 --> 00:06:40.404 when the break in working comes, actually you say, "Okay, I switch 00:06:40.404 --> 00:06:44.016 from working to scrolling." And to avoid it- 00:06:44.016 --> 00:06:44.136 Mm-hmm 00:06:44.136 --> 00:06:44.137 ... 00:06:44.196 --> 00:06:47.656 I wanted to make something more like, um, 00:06:49.216 --> 00:06:51.376 uh, put some exercises during breaks. 00:06:51.996 --> 00:06:52.016 Mm-hmm. 00:06:52.036 --> 00:06:55.596 So it is the, uh, new one which is, uh, coming 00:06:56.656 --> 00:06:59.356 right now, um, on beta testing. 00:07:00.916 --> 00:07:04.056 Um, the other one is, uh, Whatever Weather. 00:07:04.436 --> 00:07:08.722 Uh, it is the, uh, mobile application which shows you 00:07:08.722 --> 00:07:11.956 the weather with pretty grumpy comments. 00:07:12.956 --> 00:07:17.677 Uh, so actually if you, you know, wake up, look outside the window, it is 00:07:17.677 --> 00:07:22.398 rainy, windy or whatever, or even sunny, and you say, "Ah, what the heck, 00:07:22.398 --> 00:07:26.926 the weather is not, not good," you open the app, you see the sarcastic 00:07:26.926 --> 00:07:29.836 comment and you smile actually because it is- 00:07:30.916 --> 00:07:30.917 ... 00:07:30.956 --> 00:07:34.816 uh, fun to see that not only you don't like the weather. 00:07:36.036 --> 00:07:42.407 Uh, the other one is CardMate, so you can put all your plastic, uh, cards, 00:07:42.407 --> 00:07:48.864 uh, from, uh, loyalty cards, uh, to put in the application, which will keep 00:07:48.864 --> 00:07:52.996 them onli- offline and always, uh, ready to use. 00:07:53.816 --> 00:07:58.461 It is from my experience that pretty often it happens that you want to use 00:07:58.461 --> 00:08:03.608 something, it is, you know, internet is poor, you cannot, uh, use it because it is 00:08:03.608 --> 00:08:07.876 loading or you are logged out of the, uh, application or there is... 00:08:08.496 --> 00:08:11.576 You just left the plastic card at home and you need it. 00:08:12.475 --> 00:08:15.276 So it is pretty, uh, useful one, 00:08:16.776 --> 00:08:19.276 uh, to have all your loyalty cards at hand. 00:08:20.696 --> 00:08:26.885 Uh, and the last is Focus or Ketchup, so it is again something to, uh, f- to 00:08:26.885 --> 00:08:32.016 keep focus during working, but this time it is like mafia style 00:08:33.056 --> 00:08:37.956 focusing, so actually mafia, uh, keeps you focusing on your work. 00:08:40.076 --> 00:08:40.576 That's funny. 00:08:41.096 --> 00:08:41.476 Pomodoro. 00:08:41.476 --> 00:08:41.477 Pomo- 00:08:41.496 --> 00:08:42.556 Yeah, so a little bit threatening. 00:08:43.036 --> 00:08:43.176 Yeah. 00:08:43.636 --> 00:08:44.716 Tom- tomato mafia. 00:08:46.336 --> 00:08:47.216 Tomato mafia. 00:08:47.656 --> 00:08:47.916 That's funny. 00:08:47.956 --> 00:08:48.256 Yep. 00:08:49.376 --> 00:08:49.796 That's awesome. 00:08:49.856 --> 00:08:52.056 So you got a, you got a quite a few projects out there then. 00:08:52.496 --> 00:08:53.956 Or you, you, you've been working a few, yeah? 00:08:54.536 --> 00:08:55.096 Correct. 00:08:55.616 --> 00:08:57.156 Yes, yes, indeed. 00:08:57.216 --> 00:08:57.336 Yeah. 00:08:57.416 --> 00:08:59.956 A couple of projects and, uh, 00:09:01.136 --> 00:09:01.996 yes, it's correct. 00:09:02.796 --> 00:09:02.996 Mm-hmm. 00:09:03.436 --> 00:09:06.438 And then, uh, so what type of connections would help you, uh, as 00:09:06.438 --> 00:09:09.533 you're kind of growing these projects or as you're kind of growing 00:09:09.533 --> 00:09:11.456 in your professional kind of development? 00:09:11.516 --> 00:09:13.776 What, uh, what type of connections are you looking for recently? 00:09:15.216 --> 00:09:21.130 Um, pro- uh, connection is for sure with people, other people who are building and, 00:09:21.130 --> 00:09:26.902 and have, uh, success, uh, with building mobile apps, iOS apps, uh, because it is 00:09:26.902 --> 00:09:30.536 always good to have, uh, an exchange of experience. 00:09:30.716 --> 00:09:33.356 Of course, I can also share mine experience. 00:09:34.936 --> 00:09:40.570 Um, so it is, it's number one actually, and I guess on the one because it is not 00:09:40.570 --> 00:09:46.275 like I'm not looking for investors or anything like that, so it is more like, mm, 00:09:46.275 --> 00:09:51.768 people who also are building mobile apps to exchange information, support each 00:09:51.768 --> 00:09:54.656 other, uh, because sometimes it is tough. 00:09:56.196 --> 00:09:56.336 Yeah. 00:09:56.996 --> 00:09:59.656 Um, so yeah, something like that. 00:10:01.956 --> 00:10:06.395 So more, more, uh, so kind of more like a little bit senior developers 00:10:06.395 --> 00:10:09.756 that are also, uh, kind of interested in helping, uh, 00:10:10.836 --> 00:10:13.175 a middle or junior developer to kind of grow in 00:10:13.175 --> 00:10:15.116 their, in their career development and- 00:10:16.516 --> 00:10:16.517 Yeah 00:10:16.516 --> 00:10:16.517 ... 00:10:16.536 --> 00:10:16.676 yeah. 00:10:17.476 --> 00:10:22.468 G- grow- growing, so for example, if I know or spot some pro tip, let's say like 00:10:22.468 --> 00:10:26.836 this, I can share it or somebody has, "Oh, it worked for me perfectly. 00:10:26.996 --> 00:10:31.176 I..." So, but this person can share his pro tip, but so on. 00:10:31.576 --> 00:10:35.136 Or actually even, uh, even, uh, for example, I have an app, right? 00:10:35.316 --> 00:10:39.556 Uh, for example, I mentioned that I have r- right now app, uh, in beta testing. 00:10:40.156 --> 00:10:40.176 Yeah. 00:10:40.196 --> 00:10:44.984 So I can ask, ask somebody, "Hey, have a look," because I am already, you 00:10:44.984 --> 00:10:49.903 know, I have an idea, I have an vision, but actually person who is outside, 00:10:49.903 --> 00:10:53.576 uh, who will look with a fresh eye to the app, will spot 00:10:54.736 --> 00:11:00.014 something which I don't see, uh, and can, uh, before I put, uh, stuff 00:11:00.014 --> 00:11:03.916 on market, can give a feedback, uh, what should be- 00:11:04.096 --> 00:11:04.097 Mm-hmm 00:11:04.096 --> 00:11:04.097 ... 00:11:04.136 --> 00:11:05.816 you know, improved, changed, et cetera. 00:11:07.116 --> 00:11:08.176 Uh, yeah, that makes sense. 00:11:08.316 --> 00:11:08.416 That... 00:11:08.556 --> 00:11:10.750 Yeah, we have a lot of developers, so there's, uh, 00:11:10.750 --> 00:11:12.636 yeah, it's kind of on our, on our platform. 00:11:12.696 --> 00:11:15.636 I've, I've interviewed some, and then I know we're bringing in a lot 00:11:15.636 --> 00:11:18.620 of, uh, kind of engineers and developers and, you know, the community 00:11:18.620 --> 00:11:20.436 as a whole is generally very open to this. 00:11:20.696 --> 00:11:23.116 Um, and yeah, so 00:11:24.256 --> 00:11:24.396 yeah. 00:11:24.536 --> 00:11:24.936 That, that, that's awesome. 00:11:24.956 --> 00:11:25.456 And of course- 00:11:26.116 --> 00:11:26.117 Yeah 00:11:26.116 --> 00:11:26.117 ... 00:11:26.136 --> 00:11:28.716 and of course I can also review others' app, right? 00:11:28.776 --> 00:11:30.216 And s- share s- sh- 00:11:31.336 --> 00:11:32.496 uh, share the feedback. 00:11:32.576 --> 00:11:36.776 I already did it on, on, uh, X, uh, but, uh, people shared. 00:11:36.896 --> 00:11:41.728 Actually, it was, uh, more like webpages, but I like to look and search for, oh, 00:11:41.728 --> 00:11:46.076 actually how things working, and share the feedback to improve products. 00:11:46.156 --> 00:11:46.476 So yeah. 00:11:48.096 --> 00:11:48.256 That's awesome. 00:11:48.256 --> 00:11:48.616 As a, as a- 00:11:48.656 --> 00:11:48.776 Great 00:11:48.776 --> 00:11:48.777 ... 00:11:49.116 --> 00:11:50.216 giving, giving back, right? 00:11:51.296 --> 00:11:51.456 Yeah. 00:11:51.856 --> 00:11:55.016 Yeah, kind of a nice, uh, like a karma exchange or something like this. 00:11:55.256 --> 00:11:55.416 Yep. 00:11:55.856 --> 00:11:56.196 Correct. 00:11:57.356 --> 00:11:57.357 Yeah. 00:11:57.396 --> 00:11:57.716 Well, cool. 00:11:57.756 --> 00:12:02.066 Well, I'll, um, I'll go ahead and I'll, I'll, uh, if you, if you, if 00:12:02.066 --> 00:12:05.616 you're open to making a profile on HiRey, uh, it's easy. 00:12:05.676 --> 00:12:07.196 I can send you a link and- 00:12:08.580 --> 00:12:10.660 RAI can recommend some engineers. 00:12:10.740 --> 00:12:12.680 I can tell it, I think, in the link, uh, as well- 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:12.721 Mm-hmm 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:12.721 ... 00:12:12.740 --> 00:12:15.208 that you're looking to connect with engineers, and 00:12:15.208 --> 00:12:17.380 then it can make some introductions for you. 00:12:18.020 --> 00:12:22.577 And then for testers, I personally interviewed somebody a couple months ago, I think 00:12:22.577 --> 00:12:26.320 about a month ago now, and he has this platform called Founder Karma. 00:12:27.060 --> 00:12:27.100 Mm-hmm. 00:12:27.140 --> 00:12:30.571 He uses our, our platform as well, and, um, on there you can do kind of 00:12:30.571 --> 00:12:34.002 what you're think- what you're, what you're describing, which is, like, 00:12:34.002 --> 00:12:37.434 you can ask people to review your app, chat with them, and they'll give 00:12:37.434 --> 00:12:39.560 you some feedback, and you can kind of have- 00:12:39.560 --> 00:12:39.720 Mm-hmm 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:39.721 ... 00:12:39.740 --> 00:12:40.439 this feedback as well. 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:40.980 Oh, super. 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:41.520 Mm-hmm. 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.000 So those are two, those are two, uh, two ways I can help connect you with those- 00:12:45.160 --> 00:12:45.200 Mm-hmm 00:12:45.280 --> 00:12:45.281 ... 00:12:45.300 --> 00:12:45.860 engineers. 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:47.640 And, uh, yeah. 00:12:48.140 --> 00:12:49.440 Yeah, let's just take it from there, man. 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:52.028 I'll, uh- I'm ha- I'm happy to, to kind of welcome you on 00:12:52.028 --> 00:12:54.040 board and kind of see what you keep building. 00:12:54.180 --> 00:12:57.260 Keep posting on X, keep building it public, you know, and I'll be following it. 00:12:57.320 --> 00:13:01.403 And, you know, when you get a really big project, if you wanna talk about it again, 00:13:01.403 --> 00:13:04.600 I'm happy to hop on another call and you can, you can display it. 00:13:04.780 --> 00:13:07.140 O- o- one day, hopefully, I will call... 00:13:07.740 --> 00:13:12.212 message you, "Hey, I just made, like, you know, I don't know, one million 00:13:12.212 --> 00:13:15.520 app, um, dollars app, and let's talk how it happened." 00:13:16.180 --> 00:13:16.320 Yeah. 00:13:16.980 --> 00:13:20.260 The 10,000 MRR app that everybody on X talks about. 00:13:20.460 --> 00:13:20.620 Yeah. 00:13:20.980 --> 00:13:21.540 Exactly. 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:22.780 You got it. 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:23.900 It is a plan. 00:13:24.160 --> 00:13:24.740 It is a plan. 00:13:25.380 --> 00:13:25.920 It's a plan. 00:13:25.980 --> 00:13:26.320 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:26.400 --> 00:13:26.700 We got it. 00:13:26.760 --> 00:13:27.660 We got it on the books. 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:28.540 I'll, um... 00:13:29.220 --> 00:13:31.900 So if you're cool with it, uh, I can, I can post that. 00:13:32.040 --> 00:13:35.380 If you want, if you want, I can post on X to your TestFlight link to test your app. 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.216 I can post it on X and I can tag you, and then I can post a small clip from this 00:13:39.216 --> 00:13:42.520 video, and then we can see if, uh, you get some more testers that way. 00:13:42.940 --> 00:13:43.340 Is that all right? 00:13:43.880 --> 00:13:44.200 Super. 00:13:44.340 --> 00:13:45.280 Yeah, absolutely. 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:46.160 Okay. 00:13:46.460 --> 00:13:47.060 Perfect, Pawel. 00:13:47.460 --> 00:13:47.960 All right, man. 00:13:48.160 --> 00:13:49.340 Well, ha- happy building. 00:13:49.380 --> 00:13:52.901 It was great meeting you today and, uh, let's, let's keep, uh, chatting and 00:13:52.901 --> 00:13:56.000 networking at X and, uh, we'll see where we, where things grow to. 00:13:56.400 --> 00:13:56.520 Yeah. 00:13:56.700 --> 00:13:57.000 Super. 00:13:57.260 --> 00:13:57.840 Fantastic. 00:13:58.400 --> 00:13:58.640 All right. 00:13:58.680 --> 00:13:59.100 Take care, man. 00:13:59.120 --> 00:13:59.820 I'll be messaging you. 00:14:00.040 --> 00:14:00.360 Take care. 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:01.300 Uh, just question. 00:14:01.560 --> 00:14:01.561 Sure. 00:14:01.620 --> 00:14:03.140 Are you really in San Francisco? 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:07.840 No, I'm in, I'm in Scottsdale, but I do have team members that are in San Francisco. 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:08.440 Okay. 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:08.880 So our... 00:14:08.920 --> 00:14:10.540 We're, we're based in San Francisco. 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:11.760 We were based in Scottsdale. 00:14:11.780 --> 00:14:13.820 That's when I joined this company three years ago. 00:14:14.180 --> 00:14:14.181 Mm-hmm. 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:14.640 Three years as- 00:14:14.640 --> 00:14:14.680 Okay 00:14:14.680 --> 00:14:14.681 ... 00:14:14.760 --> 00:14:15.180 a startup. 00:14:15.920 --> 00:14:18.575 Uh, and then they moved back to San Francisco and I stayed in 00:14:18.575 --> 00:14:21.100 Arizona, but I'm networking with people in San Fran still. 00:14:21.580 --> 00:14:21.720 Yeah. 00:14:21.820 --> 00:14:22.480 Okay, good. 00:14:23.180 --> 00:14:23.360 Okay. 00:14:23.380 --> 00:14:23.760 Yeah, yeah. 00:14:23.780 --> 00:14:25.460 So thank you very much. 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:25.720 Cool, Pawel. 00:14:25.760 --> 00:14:26.140 Have a great day. 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:26.400 All right. 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:26.820 Bye bye. 00:14:26.860 --> 00:14:27.480 Take a good day. 00:14:27.520 --> 00:14:27.820 Bye bye.